A return to model building and flying. Part 68

November 2010

Carrier comp, Engine website, and a little on Copyright

A last minute piece I managed to get in here. Below is a link to to my club website where you will find a brief account of the open CL Carrier Carrier Comp we held on October 24. It was only attended by a small number of fliers, for what ever reasons? But those that did, thoroughly enjoyed the site and facilities we have. We hope to make this a regular event. Take a look at the pic's and the club website and judge for yourself.

carrier comp 2010

Carrier Event

For all you engine aficionado's and collectors this site could end up being a very useful resource. Please take a look

Tip: if you click on a name in left column of the tables e.g. 'Aeromicrosport' it will bring up a PDF file with detailed information.


I think this is a very important piece of work, Carlo and Rodolfo deserve a lot of support for their efforts. The site is part Italian and part English at present. For peasants like myself who only manage to understand English, PDF files are not so easy to translate with an online translator. I hope someone will help them with that.

For myself, I would dearly love to get a translation of the book 'Modelli volanti in volo circolare comandato'; books on Control Line are rare, and this is a very good one.

The following was also sent to me and raises some interesting points:-

As you know the copyright for a lot of model aircraft plans, especially Aeromodeller etc. are supposedly owned by MyHobby Store. They have also re-acquired the X-List plans of late. All the originals (or at least copies of the originals) are kept in a large garage in Bolton. As MyHobby Store receive orders the original are cleaned up, if required, copied to a disc and a paper copy posted off to the customer.
Here it gets interesting.
When the original Aeromodeller published these plans it is not clear how they did this. It used to be, until recently, under so called "first serialisation rights" this gave the magazine rights to publish just once. The COPYRIGHT remained with the authors, both the design and the article. Only if the magazine actually bought the copyright were they the passed into the magazines ownership. If the magazine went bust the copyright lapsed, and at best were the legal documents ever passed on to the multitude of successive owners. Have they ever paid royalties, are the designers still alive and have they due to age lapsed anyway. Even if you wanted too could you find the original designer.
What all this boils down to is that most,if not all, of these plans no longer belong to anyone. You can publish at will.
I am trying to find anyone who has had designs published to find out under what terms they were published. Did Aeromodeller ever purchase the copyright, have they ever paid royalties. If you know of anyone who has had his work published perhaps you can ask or put me in touch with them.
Knowing MyHobbstore if the plans are not making money they could be binned and all our heritage could be lost forever. At best they could become yet another Web based publication.
Colin Usher

I personally have no issues with anything being only a web resource. As that is the way the world will go, like it or not; the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. As long as the files are available for download, they can printed off at will at the downloader's own cost.

The issue here is that the original collection lies in the hands of a commercial enterprise, that could, if it saw fit, dispose of or destroy it on a whim, or for any reason at all. Or even attempt to gain copyright to milk the proverbial cow.

I am not saying they would, or have any intention of doing so. But the potential is there.

These plan collections, and I am talking world wide now, not just the Aeromodeller but all model aircraft publications of whatever nationality (substitute boat, engineering, trains, or what ever your choices are) should really be in the public domain for all and future generations to have access to; as reference works if nothing else.

The problem with plans are practical. Size being the obvious, it takes a big scanner to scan full sized plans and the files produced could be large. Plus there has to be a central repository held on a server somewhere, which would cost money.

Add to that, the whole thing would have to be administered by a trust, as no one individual should be responsible for any collection and a set of standards for storage would have to be agreed, and the problems become self evident.

One last thought. If every modeller was to have one or more plans scanned to file commercially and deposited into a central collection. I wonder how long it would take to record everything? I bet Google would know...  :)


Another snippet I picked up from Roger SImmond's delightful  'Smoke Trails' magazine.

Apparently, 'The production of Rapiers motors has ceased. The product has been reclassified from a smoke generation device to a firework. This change in definition results in a considerable change in the management of both production and distribution of the Rapiers. This places considerable new constraints and controls on the product.' I would also would think it would affect how the units are sold in the UK too?

This is bad news indeed. lets hope some sense will prevails in the end?

Until next time.

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